Comments on: How Google Can And Probably Is Identifying PBN Networks http://meta.baeldung.com/how-google-can-and-probably-is-identifying-pbn-networks Marketing experiences growing Baeldung Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.7 By: Lukas Eder http://meta.baeldung.com/how-google-can-and-probably-is-identifying-pbn-networks#comment-49 Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:06:00 +0000 http://meta.baeldung.com/?p=309#comment-49 In reply to Eugen Paraschiv.

Yep, there’s certainly no easy answer. And you only have one shot at experimenting before you “kill” your real identity 🙂

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By: Eugen Paraschiv http://meta.baeldung.com/how-google-can-and-probably-is-identifying-pbn-networks#comment-48 Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:32:00 +0000 http://meta.baeldung.com/?p=309#comment-48 In reply to Lukas Eder.

It’s standard practice and quite effective – I’m surprised they haven’t taken action before. However – a few days ago – they have and in a big way.

I think Google can tell who the author of something is by also using the metadata (rel publisher, author) mostly. However, in the case of a PBN – there’s no way to know who the author is. As for SEO – author is supposedly gaining weight but … how much? It’s not the kind of thing that has an easy answer.

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By: Lukas Eder http://meta.baeldung.com/how-google-can-and-probably-is-identifying-pbn-networks#comment-45 Sat, 20 Sep 2014 07:28:00 +0000 http://meta.baeldung.com/?p=309#comment-45 Interesting thoughts. I know that platforms like reddit do similar things to discover vote-rings. Banks do similar things to discover fraud-rings. That’s where graph databases and graph analyses really shine.

One thing I’m wondering about is whether Google can also link content to their authoring entities. E.g. can Google discover whether:

1. An author has written this AND that content (e.g. blog, Stack Overflow, etc.)
2. An author belongs to this OR that bigger entity (e.g. employer)

Some information is obviously known to Google via OAuth (i.e. “login with Google”), but I’m sure there are other means to discover author identities.

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By: Eugen Paraschiv http://meta.baeldung.com/how-google-can-and-probably-is-identifying-pbn-networks#comment-44 Wed, 17 Sep 2014 16:12:00 +0000 http://meta.baeldung.com/?p=309#comment-44 In reply to Nola Market Place.

Well, we’re not talking about Moz or Ahrefs – these may indeed be blocked. Google however has the whole picture – since the Google crawler is not blocked – and so they can perform the analysis with full accuracy. Cheers,
Eugen.

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By: Nola Market Place http://meta.baeldung.com/how-google-can-and-probably-is-identifying-pbn-networks#comment-43 Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:49:00 +0000 http://meta.baeldung.com/?p=309#comment-43 I don’t see how your going to spot PBN if it blocks bots…. (Ahrefs, Majestic, Moz)

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By: Eugen Paraschiv http://meta.baeldung.com/how-google-can-and-probably-is-identifying-pbn-networks#comment-42 Sun, 07 Sep 2014 08:35:00 +0000 http://meta.baeldung.com/?p=309#comment-42 In reply to Neale.

Hey Neale – yeah, I do think it’s not very difficult to analyze a site and figure out if it’s using a PBN or not once you start with the full link graph. That being said, it’s a very risky strategy for an authority site you’re aiming to grow into a real asset. If you’re growing a niche site that you don’t have big plans for, the risk is probably acceptable. Cheers,
Eugen.

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By: Neale http://meta.baeldung.com/how-google-can-and-probably-is-identifying-pbn-networks#comment-39 Sat, 06 Sep 2014 23:59:00 +0000 http://meta.baeldung.com/?p=309#comment-39 Nice! It is about time someone pointed out just how fragile these PBN’s are. I am sure it is only a question of time before google comes up with a formula which knocks out 95% of the private PBN’s Most niche type sites that I look at and are doing well, can easily be evaluated manually to see if they are using a PBN.

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